reagan and tip o'neill did. they worked together out of a framework to lower tax rates and broaden the base. and they worked together to fix that. what we are saying is, here's our framework. lower tax rates 20%. we raise about 1.2 trillion through income taxes. we forego about 1.1 trillion in loopholes and deductions. and so what we're saying is deny those loopholes and deductions to higher income taxpayers so more of their income is taxed, which has a broader base of taxation. >> can i translate. >> so we can lower tax rates across the brd. here ishy why i'm saying this. what we are saying. >> i hope i will get time to respond to this. >> will you get time. >> we want to work with congress on how best to achieve this. that means it successful. >> no specifics, then again. >> what we are saying is lower tax rates 20%, start with the wealthy. work with congress. >> you guarantee this math will add up. >> absolutely. six studies have guaranteed. six studies have verified that this math adds up. >> vice president